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a thousand masks but its all the same monster underneath

selfishness
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RejoicePayne Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2012  Hobbyist
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iamkatia Featured By Owner May 21, 2011
"
"i think selfishness comes out of instinctual self-preservation."

selfishness is a product of the erroneous belief in a self.
then comes thoughts of self-preservation.
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 21, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
even if the whole world itself is one self, 'self' is only a word to describe the filter or instrument through which we experience life.

it is the closest word i could find to express myself. all words are at least once removed from the idea. i think, if you are disagreeing with me, it could be more a matter of semantics than contrary belief.
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iram Featured By Owner May 19, 2011
every self have many faces
and transformations

and it's never the same "self" with other defferent "selves"
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 19, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
never the same self with other selves- are you referring to the masks we wear in others' company ?

i think selfishness comes out of instinctual self-preservation.. a sort of reflex that works but eventually becomes burdensome and detrimental to wellbeing.. its something all too easily learned but not so easily unlearned
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iram Featured By Owner May 19, 2011
yes (for your first paragraphe)
although it's an interesting question, whether different faces are masks we put on, or simply/honestly different "us", cause we react differently to every different person...
for example, do you know people who are "X" in one place/company, and completely different in another circumstances?
I know many... or myself :)

I think selfishness is many times depends of personality and/or breeding (education)...
the good side of selfishness (in my view) - there is no other way to reach/obtain big achievements
sometimes even love :)
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 19, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
and yeah on the 'different us' bit... its like the question: what is unnatural? if you believe everything comes out of nature.. how could nature produce something other than itself? if we, humans, are of nature, what we produce is of nature, yeah? i dunno, can give me a headache to think about.
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iram Featured By Owner May 19, 2011
the same as "can god create a rock, so heavy, that he can't lift up?" question :)
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 20, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
so the question creates a logical paradox.. maybe it is the question at fault :meditate:
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 19, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
yeah- we project ourselves into other people all the time and that can get us into some trouble! its difficult, to say the least- all the speculation amounts to only that.

yes, and i agree with you, some selfishness is worthy of outward support :p but i think the word achievements is where you get into some arguable territory.. one man's achievement is another man's trash.
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iram Featured By Owner May 19, 2011
hmmm... maybe so, sometimes (one man's achievement is another man's trash)
but... humanity's ambition (at least in its part) resulting from its competitive impulse...
and where were our ambitions without a very strong "self" (or in your word - selfishness) ?
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 20, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
i guess i just feel that self needs to be all-inclusive..

i enjoy competition when i am competing well, not necessarily when i am winning. even in that example, i would rather be a worthy opponent than a mismatch.. i don't enjoy a game in which the opposition becomes dejected, gives up. so in that sense, i don't think competition is necessarily selfish. i think we have it in ourselves to identify with another's self.
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iram Featured By Owner May 21, 2011
well, you're sensitive, and a "mantch" (Yiddish word, hard to translate, but it means "a man" in the best sense of this term)
and you're not a professinal competitor (makes it for living or to get high score or a medal)
and I'm not referring only to sport, but to any field - science, art, politics...
"identify with another's self" belongs more to social work or social involvement, to psychology...
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FigoTheCat Featured By Owner May 21, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
i only say all this because i feel that i am deeply selfish.

i have spent my life as people do trying to figure out what makes me tick and i see it (selfishness) everywhere i am.

knowing that i have a tendency to be too easy on myself i developed a sort of unspoken rule about self-truth that is: 'the harder the truth, the more credible it probably is'.

so i have gotten into patterns of moral asceticism with that.. i can take it too far..

on identifying with other selves as being tied to social involvement- isn't social involvement what being human is all about?
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